Families are families and to keep things “in order” and be able to have some type of selection, of course thoroughly understanding your pedigree is a must. By ony looking at 0% inbreeding( generations, for whatever that means) after years of working on reconstructing the breed with 3000 dogs in a pedigree database since 1930 is a tough act to accomplish. That most likely means that there is crossbreedings going back to Mrs Pêtre or Jean Claude Hermans= apples and oranges…Then, not to wonder why the dogs look so different and there is no rhyme or reason to the standard, loosely interpreted to only taking a coat into consideration.
So, we have dogs that look like everything under the sun………
Not wanting to contribute to that typed of breeding, I have always tried to select according to the Barbet type dog that some of us are trying to perpetrate. This dog is more than “just” a coat. I have been working on families for years and years and enjoy putting them together. Nothing easier than starting with The Barbochos de Reiau de Prouvenco which is the oldest of our current lines.
Verveine below left, has been sort of a racer for the breed. She inherited from Hercule, and Hercule…from before.( coming up)
In 1989: Estar (right) and Coccolina in 2005 on the left.
I had put together some families by simply dogs looking similar and then by rare colors, ( rare at the time). This type of head and coat would constitue line 1. ( unofficial of course, but that is my own classifiation)
Now, taking stock of the situation, I would like to go back on Coccolina and Grand-ma Verveine and add some others who would fit into the “family”.
Going back to 1989, Estar des Marécages du Prince, a male who looked very much like Coccolina and Verveine.( right)
This is Coccolina as a pup when she was still in Italy.
All pups lookalike when they are pups, what important is when they grow up and comparing “lines”. You will notice her shiny very loose curl coat. As adult, her coat is an easy manage coat. They have a very typical head with a flat coat on the head and the mustache grows down on each side of the nose. The nose and mouth area is also a very particular. Their eyes are generally dark.
Below and some Barbets from here and there who have similar roots to those of Coccolina, meaning going back to Hercule di Barbochos Reiau de Prouvenco and further.
Hercule and his daugther Valdepenas
Ulysse in Swizerland Aramis in Finland
Alba from Poland:USA Grisu from Holland in Germany
Boone in the USA and his brother Baxter in France
Corisande and mom Coccolina in France. There are others and I will be adding them as I go along.
1054 is Inox, next to him is Billy in Holland and Froguette is under Inox. Family ties to all of them.
Wilma in Sweden
Family 2: to me was a more Chien de Crau type. Slightly different nose; something soft that digs into your heart about the expression of the eyes, again Barbochos typed, but a slightly different ancestry: Joyeuse ( not the first one) and Islam.
Both of these girls are Luddelumps: Yatzie and Axa.
Ulyssia di Barbochos R de P Ottavia
I am having a hard time deciding where to put lovely Daytona. This is where line one can blend with line 2, line one being smaller females with curlier hair on the nose, however it always grows down on each side of the muzzle. I woud say the line 2 females are generally around 54 cms tall.
Thelma was typical of line 2, the most endangered. 54 cms, 20 or so kgs and flat hair on the head, very typical of the Griffon we are losing.
Poppenspaler’s Sangria. Her body was not so curly and with the years it went flat as others have. The head is important here…
Bijou Babe de la serve de la chapelle d’Alexandre and her brother Booly Wooly. I am using my dogs to show differences. NOT to promote them, but to show how different socute sonice pup grows up to being a “pure” bred dog or not. If I were to use a more typical line that produces poodle types, I would get sued.
Remember flat head, mustache that grows down, easy to groom vos frizzy, matted long coat and of course a much taller dog.
NOW, don’t get me wrong as a smaller male, in this case, in comparison to Booly Wooly can be apoodle type or the portrayal of an F1 cross, which in essence puts them both in the same bag.
Of course, they can win because of this or that, but does that make them typical examples of what the breed is supposed to be?
The dog on the right is 59 cms tall. Very much Poodle type, has made some lovely Griffon Barbet pups because of the proper combination.
So has the one on the left. Neither has an easy coat, in fact the black one is not manageable since the brown one is not easy. Is that what a Griffon represents?
Gigi in Holland