It’s quite obvious..and worrisome for those who cannot relate to history and facts.( click on picture for full size). At least the genes aren’t lost, but for how long? How many people defend the old breed other than me?
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Breeding between the lines..
Reading…between the lines to learn..!!
For all of you who do not speak French, or read it…It is very hard to understand what has been going on in the Barbet organized world since the 1980’s (or even before, really). I can also understand that many have this “rise above” attitude or “go with the flow”..and stay away from the “nastiness”.
This letter is a fine example to read between the lines. To do so, you need to have a lot of background information and not many have it. Do you? Who was your source? That will also make a difference.
Anyway, right now I will give you some insight into how it went. 1 example for now as a teaser.
A breeder and secretary of the Club des Amis du Barbet writes to the SCC to complain about the pdt of the Club du Barbet’s behaviour vis à vis future buyers of Barbet pups from sources in the “enemy camp”. Who is the enemy camp?
It’s about the attitude of JC Hermans, pdt of the club du Barbet. He claims a litter as being of ” bad quality” when he has not even seen the litter…and they ARE>>> SCC registered!
In the second paragraph, he describes the SCC registered litter of another person as of “not good quality”. The parents should have never been confirmed and the owners never even showed them. Says he.
Well, they did and there is proof.
JCHermans is questioning the competences of SCC judges.
People kept calling the writer of the letter to complain to her, or they wrote to her by snail mail so there are lots of records ( which I have a small collection of). The issue was always about his attitude and how unbearable it was, in a position of power enough to allow himself to flaunt it.
Hermans always wanted to discourage the other club (CAB) members from having any litters and told people who enquired to wait til his club members had litters and/or sent people to another breed. In this case it was to Bearded Collie breeders…In essence he was making sure the pups from the enemy were not sold.
>>>>Of course YOU knew there were 2 clubs? ( my comment)
Further, the dogs from JCH club were not on the selection grid and his decisions were totally arbitrary.
She is hoping the SCC will react..
>>> There are lots of parallels to be drawn in this situation and not much has evolved in 30 years and everyone is involved. If you do not know who is who and who did what..how can any info you get, be true and trustworthy. Even the official breed clubs do not have a full deck of cards and mistreat or brush away vital facts about a breed you want to breed and know nothing about.
>>>Not a healthy situation. Or is it? Based on?
So, before you go anywhere, get the full story or ask questions to the right people and get facts. Just mho.
2 varieties in one breed: new and old
The Barbet Moderne is very popular in several countries where they have managed to continue the line very well. It is not in need of survival..it’s a new breed, similar to the Labradoodle. There are a lot of fake truths circulating about the breed, which are terribly misleading.
Une race en perdition…. Feu le Barbet
It’s about Hercule di Barbochos Reiau de Prouvenco. With the breed club, he was almost in the same position as Ulysse is and has been, meaning banned. Hercule was a working dog. Had BCE and had done German tests.
When some indelicate breeders claim indelicately that some of their dogs are international working champions, there are none especially not in the Barbet since they are not allowed in any field trials. This is a good example and shows another level of…incompetence and lack of knowledge of a breed. Sadly so.
Heureux de retrouver un excellent barbet dont la race en France semble en perdition.
Ce sujet est( ?) excellent? exposé dans son ensemble extérieur et son équilibre me rappelle les barbets
que m’ont fait connaitre les Pouchins, Fréville, Bazin et autres.
Happy to see an excellent barbet again of a breed in great distress.
This particular one shown is excellent overall and reminds me of the Barbets the following judges taught me to appreciate: Mr Poucin, Fréville, Bazin and others…
The above judges were basically all banned from judging any Barbets as the breed was replaced by a genepoodle of oodles.
Since 1994 to this date even moreso, the breed club is responsible for the decline of what was never promoted as a hunter and sold as a matted poofed tight curled ballerina-toed oodle, that has not any type of identity and can be confused/ mistaken for a Labradoodle, Spanish Water Dog or Poodle. Commonly now called a portuguse Poodle ( for the new colors on tall shaved dogs).
Sad fate for a dog caused by lack of any competence of the authorities who are supposed to “manage” it.
Experts and the likes…
It is said by some new history experts that there is only one Barbet…
The one on the left is according to standard. The standard was modified several times so it would correspond to the Poodle type on the right.
The dog on the left still exists, but it is near extinction. The one on the right is rather rare, but as one says, needs to be vulgarisé, understrand make more and sell more. Nothing to do with selection but sales.
Have you seen ever the one on the right as a working gundog or “chien de chasse”?
More coming which you are going to really enjoy!